Monday 22 January 2007

THIELE Family

Descendants of Samuel Thiele born 1781 Harthe, Kries Zullichau-Schwiebus, Prussia and Anna Rosina Schulz born Posen, Prussia. Samuel and Anna migrated to South Australia in 1838 aboard the ship Prince George with the group of Lutheran refugees who migrated with Captain Hahn and Pastor Kavel. Their 4 sons came with them. One son was already married prior to migration, the other three were not.

Johann Christian Thiele born 1809 Harthe, Prussia died 1881 Hahndorf, SA married prior to migration to Johanne Dorothea Zuenert nee Klenke 1805-1887 and had 4 children:-

Johanne Luise 1839-? married Johann Wihelm Hausler
Johann Wilhelm 1840-? married Caroline Maria Martha Kruger
Johann Gotlieb 1843-1845
Johann August 1846-? married Johanne Eleanore Paech

Johann Friedrich Thiele born 1812 Harthe, Prussia died 1886 Hahndorf, SA married 1839 Hahndorf to Anna Dorothea Schmidt and had 13 children:-

Johann Gottfried 1841-1924 married 1) Rebecca Simpson - 5 children 2) Johanne Pauline Reugner - 1 child
Johann Christian 1843-? married Anna Dorothea Klenke - 12 children
Johanne Luise 1844-1932 married Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Thiele - 9 children
Johanne Eleanore 1847-? married Friedrich Siegismund Schneemilch - 13 children
Johanne Dorothea 1848-?
Caroline Ernestina 1851-1903 married Phillip Skelly
Ernst 1853-1917
Maria Amalia 1852-1875 married Heinrich August Haebich - 2 children
Anna Dorothea 1856-? married Johann Wilhelm Paech - 8 children
Martha 1854-1925 married Johann Anton Wilhelm Greve - 6 children
Lydia 1858-1915 married Johann August Bretag - 12 children
Augusta Emma 1860-1861
Hulda 1863-1927 married Ernst Heinrich Schubert


Johann Wilhelm Thiele born 1819 Harthe, Prussia died 1909 Hahndorf, SA married 1939 Eleanore Henriette Lubasch and had 12 children:-

Johanne Luise 1839-1921 married Johann Wilhelm Haeusler - 1 child
Johanne Caroline 1842-1885 married Carl August Schubert - 5 children
Johann Gottlob 1843-? married Johanne Caroline Paech - 9 children
Eleonore Henriette 1844-? married Carl August Friedrich Wilhelm Schutz - 4 children
Johann August 1846-1910 married Johanne Eleanora - 2 children
Johann Wilhelm 1846-1925 married Martha Pauline Hausler - 7 children
Carl August 1851-1901 married Johanne Pauline Maczkowiack - 10 children
Johanne Emilie Bertha 1849-1964 - never married
Johann Friedrich 1850-1925 married Auguste Pauline Lydia Bottroff - 13 children
Gustave 1852-1917 married Pauline Elisabeth Liebelt - 10 children
Hermann Rienhold 1854-1854
Johann Ferdinand 1856-1856

Johann August Thiele born 1832 Harthe, Prussia died Hahndorf 1896 married 1856 to Johanna Luise Thiele 1836-1907 - 11 children :-

Johann Friedrich August 1857-1857
August Eduard 1859-1859
Johanne Louisa Bertha 1860-1861
Hermann August Edmund 1862-1941 married Maria Louise Liebelt - 2 children
Emma Thiele 1865-1901 married James Hillman - 8 children
Augusta Lydia 1867-1938 married Johann Gottlieb Hermann Paech - 2 children
Ferdinand Heinrich 1869-1921 married Johanne Caroline Wilhelmine Otto - 8 children
Johanne Maria Martha 1871-? married Friedrich Christian Schaeffer - 6 children
Louisa Bertha 1874-1947 married John Guerin - 3 children
Carl Reinhold 1876-1897
Johann Oswald 1879-? married Auguste Berthe Liebelt - 10 children

13 comments:

Jeffie said...

I am directly related to Johan Gottlob THIELE through my mother who is now 91 years of age. I can confirm that he was born 16th April 1843 at Klemzig S Australia and married Johanne Caroline PAECH at St Michael's Hahndorf, S Australia 29 June 1865 and died 17Apr 1926. Both are buried in West Terrace Cemetery, Adelaide, S Australia.
If you have any further information on this line I would be most apprecative.
Yours Sincerly
Jeffie

Julz said...

Jeffie - contact me with an email address please

Heather said...

My G.G.Grandfathers (Johann Carl Gottlieb HAEBICH) brother (Heinrich August HAEBICH) was married to Maria Amalie THIELE and then he married Caroline Maria PAECH. My dilema is how are the PAECH, THIELE and HAEBICH clan all so involved. How I came across your site is through
THIELE J. Friedrich par: Saml and Anna Rosina nee SCHULZ b: 28.2.1812 Harthe, Brandenburg, Prussia d: 28.4.1886 bd: Hahndorf SA arr: 1838 PRINCE GEORGE occ: Farmer res: Hahndorf rel: Luth m: Hahndorf SA Anna Dorothea nee SCHMIDTpar: Foster mother: Anna Elis SCHULZ nee SCHMIDT b: 26.4.1816 Zullichau-Schwiebus, Brandenburg, Prussia d: 2.10.1907

ch: J. Gottfried (1841-1924), Ernst (1853-1917)', Maria Amalie HAEBICH (-1875), Anna Dorothea PAECH (1856-), 2 daus.

I dont understand all that stuff but I would be interested in hearing from you especially about hte 2 children and where they went after thier mothers death.
kind regards
Heather

Julz said...

Heather, have the answer you want - contact me with your email address at jstokes58@gmail.com and I will get back to you

Anonymous said...

I'd be interested in any information you have on Anna Dorothea Klenke (who you have listed as married to Johann Christian Thiele). I am a descendant of Elisabeth Hedwig. marg_webster at hotmail.com

Julz said...

Hello anonymous - write to me with whatever it is you want to know about them - don't have a huge amount on Christian's wife, but you are welcome to whatever I have - jks58@adam.com.au

Anonymous said...

I am directly related to Johann Wilhelm Thiele, born at Harthe in Prussia in 1819 and in particular his son Johann Friedrich born in 1850. I note that you say Johann Friedrich had 13 children. All the information that I have been able to uncover suggests they had twelve children. Do you have any information on their children's names?

Regards,

Malcolm Thiele
mathiele@optusnet.com.au

Anonymous said...

Eleonore Henriette 1844-? married Carl August Friedrich Wilhelm Schutz - 4 children

Eleonore and Carl are my greatx3 g parents there was more than 4 children

Carl's last name was Schuetz also, orginally it was Schutz with teh hyphen above the U but was changed when his family (when he was a child came to SA) he was also known as Ausguts on some records, his marriage to ELeonore was his 2nd marriage witha 3rd to folloow after her death.

Carl and Eleonore Schuetz children as follow

Maria Hulda schultze
1869 – 1870

Hermann Gustav Conrad Schuetz
1870 – 1916

John Wilhelm August Schuetz
1872 – 1929

August Friederich Ferdinand Schuetze
1874 –

Bertha Pauline Emilie Schuetz
1876 – 1936

Ferdinand Oswald Schuetz
1877 – 1940
Albert Alfred Schutz
1879 – 1941

Carl Julius Schuetz
1882 – 1944

As you see some children died with a different lastname variation (hence why this family line has been hard to research) my lines descend from Hermann Gustav Conrad Schuetz, please note that this families children also has links to the town of Broken Hill in NSW after the mothers death with marriages etc then back to SA for most.

If anyone wishes to view a tree on ancestry of this particular line my link is this on there

http://trees.ancestry.com.au/tree/20164854/person/949081889

Or contact me at st.nelson@bigpond.com

Anonymous said...

Hi Jules, I'm hoping you can help me and my family "Thiele".

Around 15 years ago, we put an ad in the Adelaide Sunday Mail as we wanted to trace our family tree.

We received numerous letters and one in particular from a woman, whom we can't exactly remember her name. I recall she lived around the Glenelg area or down south.

A conversation was held over the phone between her and my Father. Basically, she mentioned she was putting together a family tree and was keen to borrow an old 'family tree book' we had, which my father Willi Thiele was given from his aunty (now deceased) in Germany.

The photocopied bound book was printed in German and it had all the vital information needed for our family history. No copy was ever made and my father deeply regrets sending it to her to borrow, in which she said she would return. We don't know if the woman passed away or if she intended never to return the book or perhaps passed it on to her kids.

Now my siblings and I, all in our 20's and 30's, are keen to trace our family tree and put all the pieces together of our German heritage, we are missing that piece of the puzzle. The book that contains all the vital information.

Do you have any information as to how I could somehow track down this book?

Kind Regards, Natasha Thiele

EMAIL: nthiele@hotmail.com

Unknown said...

hi there I am looking for Augustus Theile she married a wynandt wewege she died in 1905. they lived in the old transvaal region

Mark said...

Hi Jules,

I'm a descendant of Samuel Thiele, through Johann Wilhelm Thiele, Johann Gottlob Thiele, Johann Wilhelm Thiele and Percy Cyril Thiele (my grandfather). Any information or narrative you could share on these families would be most appreciated.

Mark Dal-Corobbo
markdalcorobbo@hotmail.com

Unknown said...

Hi
My grandmother was Augsta Theil, she married a vynandt Wewege- Any information you could share with me I would be grateful-

My grandmother died in 1931 -35 not sure of dates , my grandfather died in 1947 at the time of my grans death they lived in Benoni Transvaal as it was known.

Anonymous said...

Hi

Johann Wilhem is my 3rd great grandfather. I am interesting in learning more about the families life in Prussia. Does anyone know what country Harthe would fall under these days?